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What's the cheapest non-chill filtered, non-coloured whisky?
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JAB
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What i have herd is that most of them are really good drams, but depending on your palate this opinion may change.

I do know recently a bottle or 2 have been selling at mctears for £200+ mark so could be a nice investment if they are not drank for years to come.

The only problem is it only shows the distallation date, and only 1 shows the age!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would assume they are all single cask bottling not sure if they will be cask strength or not. If you do a search for First Cask over at TWE it gives you 3 first cask bottlings all of which are bottled at 46% so maybe that is there standard bottling strength. They could do themselves a favour and put all the details on there website.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the 4 bottles i was looking at say 46% and are all single casks.

at £40 each might be worth a shot, still swaying if i should buy or not!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the First Cask Imperial 1982 has got to be a good buy as i dont think there is any sign of this distillery reopening in the near future. I would guess these First Cask bottlings are all recent so this could be around 28 years old
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely the First Cask Imperial 1982 has got to be a good buy as i dont think there is any sign of this distillery reopening in the near future. I would guess these First Cask bottlings are all recent so this could be around 28 years old


Yes Gregor that is the problem it does not tell you the age on he website, i have a few prevous bottles and the dates are on the bottles them selfs so how hard is it to put a little more info on the web site!

£40 for a 28yo sounds good to me, so who will be buying a few bottles then?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a Duncan Taylor bottling of Imperial which was very good. This does seem a good price if you fancy trying Imperial or even as a potential investment.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAB wrote:
Does any one have any of the following first cask bottles?
Just looking at them but they dont give alot of info on the website http://www.laithwaites.co.uk/LW/jsp/templates/otherpages/offer.jsp?noTabs=True&categoryId=cat1200044&cid=email%7Cint%7C28MAY%7CLW%7COZREDSNZWHITE

First Cask Glenkinchie 1987
First Cask Imperial 1982
First Cask Miltonduff 1983
First Cask Macduff 1984
First Cask Ben Nevis 1990
First Cask Dalmore 1990
First Cask Ardmore 1990

£40 a bottle currently!


The Ardmore was excellent. I had it last year at xmas/new years time and it was like the traditional cask bottlings should be (No caramel) but with extra smoke it seemed!

The Dalmore 1990 is currently in my collection. Shame they dont have any of the highland park 1989 left, that was incredible.

The thing is with first cask is it can be a bit hit and miss. Firstly, as a subscribed member you get no say with what you get but thats part of the charm and secondly, they are made by signatory so it can be quite random what you end up with sometimes but you tend to get a good range.

the quality also can be a bit hit and miss because of the standard price (50 normally but 40 to flog it!) so sometimes it appears distilleries dont give you the best for this set price cask. Compared to other independendts such as old malt cask or SMWS where they really select cask on quality basis and have a pricing scheme based on age/distillery/cask etc.

also in recent years since ive been a member the age has been more standardised (18 - 24 it seems) probably due to the increase in price and popularity of single malts making it hard for independents. My uncle has been collecting these since the early 90's and he used to get some aged stunners including a 34 year old bottle of macallan from the 60's which he still has!

oh ye and JAB, they all have the ages on the bottles as well as cask no. bottle no. distillation date and a small mention of distillery. They all come with a little information leaflet about the malt/distillery or at least the ones in the circle do. any other questions I'd be happy to answer for you!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom are they all bottled at 46%
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep all 46% ABV no added colouring un-chillfiltered
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i know all the info are on the bottles but it does not help not putting it on their web site when they are trying to sell the stuff!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ye true its not a great site as they are primarily a wine company and the whisky they sell to members so you only see whats left over. I'm actually tempted to snap up another ardmore now!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
The new Bunnahabhain 12 is a great example of how much a whisky can improve with the removal of the caramel colouring and filtering and then bottling at a bit higher strength. I must say i enjoy the Bunna 12 now were before it is not a bottle i would have picked up much. I have had some decent Bunna independent bottlings in the past which have been bottled naturally. Cant wait to try there 18 and 25 year olds as they plan to bottle them without colouring or filtering when current stocks have depleted. So the future looks good for me as i already like the 18 year old and they are going to improve it Very Happy


Thanks, I think I'm going to go for the Bunnahabhain! Though I'll have to try the Glenlivet Nadurra soon as well.!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex another distillery that bottles its standard range un-chill-filtered and uncoloured is Arran. I've been meaning to try it for a while (esp. their 14 year-old) but haven't got round to it yet. Any Arran impressions anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new Arran 14 is very good and if you like a port finish whisky there recent Port Finish is is very good also. If you can get a hold of a bottle of the Arran Rowan Tree that was also very good. In fact i have enjoyed everything i have tried from Arran, i see they have a new lightly peated bottling called Machrie Moor:
www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/arranmachriemoor.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the Arran 14 at the end of last year, i agree very good and the icons of Arran Peacock and Rowan Tree were both excellent. Alastair, not tried their Port Finish, does it have an age statement or is it quite young Arran.
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