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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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opelfruit Master Of Malts

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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For the record I hate the selling of whisky for a profit with an absolute passion. Whether it's to fund more bottles for consumption or just as pocket money. The reason for this is because people see whisky being sold for profit and want a piece of it, so they buy it up and limited bottles disappear fast. The distilleries notice this and also want to claw back some of that profit so next time the initial price goes up.
The process repeats next time and the bottles go up and up and disappear just as fast. This leaves the hard working, budget limited, drinkers of whisky like yours truly having to pay more to buy the whisky that I actually want to drink......all because someone wants to fund more bottles or pocket a quick buck.
This spreads away from limited releases to more of the limited core bottling such as those with a good age statement in5. What happens? They become ridiculous to buy or sell too many for people who just want to auction them off. We run out of old whisky, age statements disappear and we have to buy rubbish NAS stuff.
......and then we all complain about it. _________________ "Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whisky is barely enough." |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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i have paid more than retail for whiskys, I had the choice no one forced me to do it but j wanted certain whiskies and paid the money wether like it or hate it with a passion it happens if your not happy with the price don't buy it simple as that
In this day and age it's always going to happen no one is going to buy a cracking bottle of whisky keep it for a few years and then sell it for what they paid for it |
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unblended Master Of Malts

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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to many hoovers around so I stopped collecting years ago
I personally agree with opel fruit
but everyone has a choice take it or leave but this is a forum
I have noticed the fixation on auction prices |
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sorren Master Of Malts


Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 2329 Location: uk
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 🎣. Agree with Opel to a point but I'm afraid I'm on the dark side of the force.. |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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So basically unblended if someone got a whisky that you never their a Hoover 😂😂
Nice logic ðŸ‘🼠|
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unblended Master Of Malts

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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amazing your logic doh
nice logic |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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😂😂😂 Your reply
are you old enough to be on this |
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dramblersanonymous Master Of Malts

Joined: 11 Aug 2015 Posts: 439 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Crikey. If you want auction prices, sell at auction. If you want retail prices, start a shop, if you want distillery prices, sit online all morning waiting for it to work (or go to the distillery!), if you;'re a collector, then stick it on your shelf and enjoy, if you're a drinker, woohoo! In my opinion £130 was an excellent offer. Nearly 75% return for logging on at the right time a few days back.
If you buy a new bottle then try and sell it within a couple of days the assumption is that you're out to make a bit of cash. Which is fine (or maybe not?!). Just don't pussy about. Be honest, state a price, deal with the fallout. |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you read a few posts back I said I didn't want to accept that offer and that I would just keep it
There was no pussying about the guy made the offer I didn't except end of
Why are some of you on this bit of the forum when it annoys you so much haha |
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Fightingirish Master Of Malts

Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Posts: 293 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| thelastdram wrote: | i have paid more than retail for whiskys, I had the choice no one forced me to do it but j wanted certain whiskies and paid the money wether like it or hate it with a passion it happens if your not happy with the price don't buy it simple as that
In this day and age it's always going to happen no one is going to buy a cracking bottle of whisky keep it for a few years and then sell it for what they paid for it |
You are correct.....they're going to Drink it, not sell it for profit.
As Sorren has said, it's a bit of a sore spot. Try not to take it personally. It just seems strange that you posted in the newest addition section and was proud to say you managed to get one as there are only 1200 available. Then a few short hours later, you post it looking to make a profit and turn down a more than fair offer.
So, you can see how this would agitate the guys who tried to get one and couldn't cause the flippers got to it first. _________________ If Jack Bauer was gay, his name would be Chuck Norris |
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thelastdram Single Malt Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I actually managed to get two bottles as my wife also bought me one due to it being my bday so though I'd try sell one, maybe a fair offer to some I didn't think so didn't accept and now keeping
Of course I can see why people would get pissed off with people doing this, that's life i done what others done and phoned and managed to get maself a bottle and later found out my wife also did that's why put the bottle on so quick
The thing is that's life there's things i wanted to get when it first came out and am pretty sure some of these guys have sold whisky for a higher value than they bought it for so that's why I find it funny.
People can say what they want it's their opinion of course but that what stop what happens in not just the whisky world but ticket touts, as I also said the guy knew nothing about me but willing to judge me because I'm trying to sell one bottle and not willing to give him it for the price he wanted to pay |
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eelbrook Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I don't buy into the argument that high secondary market prices inevitably drive up retail prices. Rather, I think that bottlers/retailers apply basic demand and supply principles.
Single grain whiskies are one example. It wasn't auction resuls that led to price hikes. Rather, the vastly increased demand that resulted from millions being spent advertising Girvan & Haig
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unblended Master Of Malts

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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sorry eelbrook I think your wrong
its speculators pushing up the prices anything that comes out and gets swallowled up then is sold at auction
I think the distilleries and independent bottlers have noticed it and put up there prices to get there share of the market
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