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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: Douglas Laing Benriach 18 y.o. |
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I am new to the forum and just purchased the Douglas Laing Ben Riach bottling of the 18 y.o. Speyside. I can not find any tasting notes on this but I have read good reviews on the Ben Riach malts. Anyone know this malt?
Since my malt supply was getting a little low in addition to the above I also purchased the following:
Balvenie 17 Sherry Oak Cask
Aberlour d'Abunadh batch 32
Highland Park 12 (couldn't find the 18)
Springbank 10
I also have the batch 27 of the Aberlour, Talisker 10 and Macallan 18 in my cabinet along with a few select Van Winkle bourbons. I look forward to learning a lot from you guys here. _________________ Dave |
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Kenny M Master Of Malts

Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 860
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Dave and welcome to the forum.
Not sure if you already know, Douglas Laing is an Independent Bottler.
www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/douglaslaing.htm
Would it be the Douglas Laing Old Malt Cask Benriach 18 year old Cask No. 4278 that you have
If it is, not many people would have tasted it as it was a limited edition of only 235 bottles. Jim Murray rates it at 83.5/100 in his Whisky Bible.
This is the official tasting note from Douglas Laing:
Nose: Sweet with baked waffles + fruit + cream then herbal.
Palate: Rich, spicy and sweet runs to peppery hint of smoke.
Finish: Tangy with burnt oak and a bitter chocolate quality. |
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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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No it is not that one. This bottling has a Green label that reads Douglas of Drumlanrig. Also has words From One Single Cask
Benriach Distillery Aged 18 years
Distilled February 1990 bottled September 2008
Speyside
Cask type: Refill Hogshead
Cask Reference #-LD 4652
Filled 150 Bottles
46% ABV _________________ Dave |
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Kenny M Master Of Malts

Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 860
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Dave and welcome to the SMW forum
That is a nice selection of Scotch malt whisky you have there, the Balvenie 17 Sherry Oak Cask and the Aberlour a'bunadh batch 32 are both excellent IMO. The Highland Park 12 is very good but keep an eye out for the 18 year old as it is superb.
Sorry i am not familiar with the Douglas of Drumlanrig Benriach |
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Grant M Master Of Malts

Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 2099 Location: Northern Ireland
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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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As it turns out it is. I emailed Laing and got an immediate reply. The US importer wanted 750ml bottles. The rest of the world accepts 700ml. Only 150 bottles were ordered by the US importer and the remainder of the cask went into the 330 700ml bottles for the rest of the world. _________________ Dave |
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Carson Master Of Malts

Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 468
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Tennessee Dave wrote: |
As it turns out it is. I emailed Laing and got an immediate reply. The US importer wanted 750ml bottles. The rest of the world accepts 700ml. Only 150 bottles were ordered by the US importer and the remainder of the cask went into the 330 700ml bottles for the rest of the world. | They are all good guys at Douglas Laing and always happy to help and advise and they do turn out some good whisky.
Interesting how they done this though, where you think you have 1 of 150 bottles where it is actually 1 of 480 bottles, still a very limited number of bottles but not quite as limited as you thought.
I have always assumed the bottle numbers stated on the bottle/packaging was the total to have come out of the specific barrel number stated and not the total number of bottles which have been bottle in that size of bottle.
I didnt know they done this and do others do this? |
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Keith Master Of Malts


Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1535 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea they done it like this. I assumed that the total number of bottles was the total number they got from the cask. If this is not the case it is a bit misleading  |
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Charlie Master Of Malts

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Keith wrote: | I had no idea they done it like this. I assumed that the total number of bottles was the total number they got from the cask. If this is not the case it is a bit misleading  | Same here, i didnt realise it worked like this |
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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know this either.
Here is a copy of the email
Good morning David
I acknowledge your query regarding a bottle of our Douglas of Drumlanrig you recently purchased.
Your bottle is genuine.
When we bottle for the US market we must bottle into 750ml bottles - the rest of the world accepts 700ml capacity.
On this particular bottling we only bottled 150 bottles as requested by the importer for the USA and that would leave us rather a lot in the cask if not then bottled.
The rest of the cask was then bottled for the rest of the world market into 700ml bottles.
I hope this clarifies and when you open the bottle I am confident that you will find the contents to be to your satisfaction.
In good spirits and thanks for your support from our family owned company.
Stewart H Laing _________________ Dave |
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Fergie Master Of Malts

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea that it worked like this, i am surprised that this is the way that they do it.
Dave, I would have assumed the "Filled 150 Bottles" statement on your bottle meant that it was a total of 150 bottles from that cask. Anyway i hope you enjoy the BenRiach.
I have had both the Aberlour a'bunadh batch 27 and 32 and thought the batch 32 was way better IMO. |
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Samson Master Of Malts


Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 1722 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| I also would have assumed "Filled 150 Bottles" meant that was the total from that barrel, it is a little misleading, although i am sure the whisky is very good it is not quite as limited as the description on the box/bottle suggests. I had no idea they done it like this, surely this isnt common practice or someone would have picked up on and mentioned it by now. |
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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Samson wrote: | | I also would have assumed "Filled 150 Bottles" meant that was the total from that barrel, it is a little misleading, although i am sure the whisky is very good it is not quite as limited as the description on the box/bottle suggests. I had no idea they done it like this, surely this isnt common practice or someone would have picked up on and mentioned it by now. |
I have a suspicion that it might be more common than we think. Douglas didn't hesitate to tell me this information. It appears resonable to assume that if an importer does not buy the entire barrel the remainder will be bottled and sold to another importer somewhere else. I can envision that this commonly happens with independent bottlers. No harm unless you really want a rare bottling. In this particular case I had never tasted Ben Riach and I thought this might be a very good one. Quite frankly I didn't notice the number of bottles filled on the label until I started researching for tasting notes. I was not at all disappointed. In fact it is really a great dram to my taste. _________________ Dave |
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Blackadder Master Of Malts

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 1736 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Douglas Laing do some great whiskies, always one my favourites from DL would be their Port Ellen bottlings |
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Tennessee Dave Double Malt Member

Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 102 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Blackadder wrote: | | Douglas Laing do some great whiskies, always one my favourites from DL would be their Port Ellen bottlings |
I almost picked one up. It was the 29 year old. Never tasted Port Ellen so I was a bit hesitant. _________________ Dave |
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