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scottster New Member

Joined: 19 Feb 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Nottinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: Ardbeg Lord of the Isles |
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I have a bottle of Ardbeg Lord of the Isles with box / scroll that I would like to sell. It was a gift from my brother but I am more than happy with a bottle of Macallan and will never drink something this expensive. So the plan is to free-up some funds for my other love (hi-fi).
I have listed the Ardbeg on eBay (price based on other listings) but this Forum was recommended to me as a better place to sell; I would certainly like to avoid eBay / Paypal fees. So I am open to advice and offers (and would swap/part ex for a naim hi-cap if you happen to have one).
I can provide more details or photographs - but beyond reading what is on the packaging I am already at the limit of my expertise. |
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JAB Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 1231 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you are looking to sell i would recomend
Scotch Whisky Auctions
1134 Argyle Street, Glasgow (Tams Drams)
http://scotchwhiskyauctions.com/
Cheaper than ebay and other Auctions,
Scotch Whisky Auctions Ltd charges 10% commission on the hammer price, plus £3 per item entered and an additional £4 if reserves are asked for |
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vitara7 Member

Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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ebay is actually a tand cheaper than scotchwishyauctions
both charger the seller 10% final vaule fee, but swa charge +£3 per listing, where as ebay only charge between 40p for a buy it now listing, or £1.30 for an auction higher value listing.
plus, dont swa now also charge the buyer also 10% |
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JAB Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 1231 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| But remember paypal takes 4% for receiving money, and SWA have been getting the best prices recently acording to the Whisky Invester! |
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vitara7 Member

Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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they take 3.4%, but thats only IF you use paypal.
with the new FPS system in banks do people still even use paypal, FPS is free and you get money in your account in under 2 hours.
plus, the figures from whisky inversor, arent they only up to and including the 5% buyer premium auctions?
given SWA buyers fee's are now 10% it may have an impact and force the masses back to ebay as the price you bid it the price you pay. |
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JAB Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 1231 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| vitara7 wrote: | they take 3.4%, but thats only IF you use paypal.
with the new FPS system in banks do people still even use paypal, FPS is free and you get money in your account in under 2 hours.
plus, the figures from whisky inversor, arent they only up to and including the 5% buyer premium auctions?
given SWA buyers fee's are now 10% it may have an impact and force the masses back to ebay as the price you bid it the price you pay. |
Hadnt herd of FPS before is it on ebay listings now as a payment option?
True but looks like a bumper auction over at swa this month! |
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whisky_collector Single Malt Member

Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| vitara7 wrote: | they take 3.4%, but thats only IF you use paypal.
with the new FPS system in banks do people still even use paypal, FPS is free and you get money in your account in under 2 hours.
plus, the figures from whisky inversor, arent they only up to and including the 5% buyer premium auctions?
given SWA buyers fee's are now 10% it may have an impact and force the masses back to ebay as the price you bid it the price you pay. |
In my experiance - I buy and sell a fair bit on Ebay and 95% of my payments sent and received are Paypal. I don't like the fact that they take 3-4% but it is convenient, quick and in my experiance very safe - more so as a buyer than a seller though.
As for SWA - it cannot be beaten for a seller or buyer. This is why :
1. As a buyer if you have bought from them they will package and send the bottles out to you (no extra charge other than very reasonable postage £9 1 bottle/£13 2 bottles etc no different from Ebay) - no other auction house does this currently and it's the biggest selling point for me if I only wan't to buy a few bottles. I live in Derbyshire and if I wanted to only buy one bottle from Mctears/Bonhams etc it's going to cost me at least £50 for either a courier or to drive there and pick up (which I have done before - took me 8hrs and cost me £60 but cheaper than a courier).
2. Prices on most collectable and non-collectable bottles are higher at SWA than any auction including Ebay - this I think is because of the above reason as a buyer and because they ship to every country apart from Canada (few problems with US but they still ship there) this gives the chance for people living abroad to buy the whiskies without coming here and without the hassle of arranging a coyurier company to package and send the items.
3. It's all done on the internet which saves money and the descriptions are clear and easy to understand (no stupid estimates!!)unlike some other auction houses who will remain nameless.
4. The ending of the auctions being between 6pm and 9pm I think actually boost the final price as the extra 5 minutes each time a bid is made prolongs the price war between bidders - this isn't a bad thing certainly for sellers!!
I too haven't heard of FPS and doubt whether it will make a real impact - how does it work on Ebay? I've never seen it mentioned there. Had a quick look online and the only thing I could find is Amazon FPS which doesn't seem to make sense! |
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JAB Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 1231 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info whisky_collector
i agree with everything you say, and have the added benefit of styaing in glasgow so have no problem dropping off and collecting bottles from them!
John |
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r900p Double Malt Member

Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 138 Location: Hayfield, Derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Selling for me is between SWA and Whisky Auction. Whilst both get results, if £ is strong then WA for me is better and even better if selling 6 bottles or more as shipping is free.
Haven't bought from SWA yet but intend to if and when the bottles I want pop up, I've missed one already! However buyer charge puts me off now as WA doesn't have one.
Still use eBay for buying and only pay with Paypal as it's safe. Got a bottle that I've been waiting on a while now which hasn't arrived so I can raise this issue if and when I need to.
Really interested to know what FPS thing is.
R |
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William Administrator


Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 4056 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| r900p wrote: | Really interested to know what FPS thing is.
R | FPS is "Faster Payments Service". When i use my online banking to make a payment i can select the option to make the payment "as soon as possible". This uses the Faster Payments Service. My money will normally reach the recipient's bank account within 2 hours but in my experience it is usually there within minutes. Payments for larger amounts might take up to a day. If the recipient account doesn't accept Faster Payments, your payment will take up to 3 days from the date you set up the payment. My bank confirms to me whether the recipients account can accept Faster Payments before i confirm the payment should be made. There is no charge for using the FPS.
Not sure i would use the FPS to pay for goods from ebay unless i 100% trusted the seller and my savings would be worth while. I would still stick to paypal and the security it offers me. _________________ There's no bad whisky. Just good whisky and better whisky. |
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