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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: My Malt Experiment |
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Call me crazy but i've been wanting to try something for a long time. I enjoy Highland Park 18 especially on the nose but my palate as some of you already know expresses exponentially the salted butter and salted honey on the palate with this dram usually to the exclusion of other flavors. So I decided to mix 1/2 oz. of the HP 18 with a 1/2 oz. of Dalmore 12 and see if I can get beyond the mega-salt experience.
Here are my results which I must say turned out for me very positive. I guess we can call the resulting dram HPD 12 (for the youngest of the 2)-:
Neat- On the nose: stewed prunes, salted roasted chestnuts, smokehouse aromas, rum cake, strawberry rhubarb pie. On the palate: Smokehouse salmon, waves of sweet, faint notes of salted honey and nuts. On the finish: Peaches and cream sweet corn, with a creamy long finish with sweet smoke.
With Water-On the nose: Vanilla, citrus, honey, hint of rhubarb, smoke and nuggat notes. On the palate: Kippery, smokehouse, hint of leather, salted honey and berries. On the finish: Sweet with a distant saltiness, smoky and lingering.
The combo gave me what I always considered the best part of HP18 with an opening of palate flavors for me and a greater overall complexity. Again, I'm basing all this on my sensitive palate and a study of N=1.
Comments? Anybody try something like this?
Cheers. _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
W.C. Fields (1880-1946) |
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Calder Master Of Malts

Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 688
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Not being a big Dalmore fan i couldnt have brought myself to add some to some Highland Park 18 which i love.
I have blended together the remains of a few almost empty bottles in the past but not in a calculated way with the intent of creating a certain flavour profile. |
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bifter Master Of Malts

Joined: 10 Apr 2012 Posts: 1403 Location: East Lothian
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Quaich1, have you tried verifying this salt note against another bottle of HP18 or even a dram from a local bar? I wonder whether it could just be the particular vatting. My recent tasting notes of HP18 didn't include any mention of salt/brine but I'll make sure to look for it next time round. Incidentally have you ever tried Old Pulteney 12? I think that's about the saltiest dram I've had.
In my notes on HP18 I had thought of mentioning how superior it was to Dalmore but in the end I thought the comparison would have to be with the Dalmore 18 rather than the 15 that I own. Either way I think its much better value. However the 12 seems to be generally rated well and, I guess, if the HP18 isn't doing it for you then you may as well try to make the most of it. _________________ "Whisky is liquid sunshine."
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| bifter wrote: | Hi Quaich1, have you tried verifying this salt note against another bottle of HP18 or even a dram from a local bar? I wonder whether it could just be the particular vatting. My recent tasting notes of HP18 didn't include any mention of salt/brine but I'll make sure to look for it next time round. Incidentally have you ever tried Old Pulteney 12? I think that's about the saltiest dram I've had.
In my notes on HP18 I had thought of mentioning how superior it was to Dalmore but in the end I thought the comparison would have to be with the Dalmore 18 rather than the 15 that I own. Either way I think its much better value. However the 12 seems to be generally rated well and, I guess, if the HP18 isn't doing it for you then you may as well try to make the most of it. |
Hi bifter,
You may be quite right about the possibility that my particular bottle of HP 18 with really salty notes on the palate may be related to a particular vatting. During my weekend single malt tasting in Niagara Falls, Sept. 7-9, the master class on the Sat. was given by the Canadian Ambassador for Highland Park and Macallan and one of the drams was Highland Park 18. I compared the poured dram mentally to my own bottle of the 18 and the salty notes were there but my own bottle seemed to be much more salty to me. I did approach the gentleman after the tasting and raise the issue with him. He seemed a bit surprised when I mentioned how the HP affects my palate but he did indicate that it could be related to my particular bottle, i.e., consistent with your hypothesis about the vatting, or a particularity to my palate. I am fine with Highland Park 12 and 15 and enjoy all the flavors there. Jim Murray in his book does describe " a thick dollop of honey spread across a layer of salted butter" on the nose but nothing on the palate that way.
I've never tried the Old Pulteney 12 but I would like to and it would indicate whether I do have an increased sensitivity to salty notes. You make some very good points bifter.
Thanks. _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
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bifter Master Of Malts

Joined: 10 Apr 2012 Posts: 1403 Location: East Lothian
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quaich1 wrote: | | Jim Murray in his book does describe " a thick dollop of honey spread across a layer of salted butter" on the nose but nothing on the palate that way. |
Funny, I was just looking at that! Decided to have a wee pour of HP18 to finish the evening and see if I could pick it up. I have to admit I couldn't find it on the nose, I couldn't get past the sherry and polish aromas (though I've already had a couple of drams this evening and a Partagas mini). I did think there was a slight salty note on the palate but not pronounced. Again it could be the vatting or just indicative of my palate though it's not as if I can just pop round to compare drams and find out for sure. _________________ "Whisky is liquid sunshine."
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albo Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I've never actually done the (that I can remember). It may be a good way to get through a bottle you don't particularly enjoy, though it would mean risking something you do.
The only bottle I really didn't get on with was the Bruichladdie Waves, picked it up for £20 tried it a couple of times and just really didn't get on with it at all. Ended up giving it away to my father. |
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