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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:10 am Post subject: My education in the basics of Scotch Whiskey. |
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I have to tell a little story about a day that I spent with a man named Gerald: A man and his Scotch whiskey.
In the course of my work met Gerald when a mutual friend introduced me to him in order to assist in his build of a new webpage for his effort "Hollywood's Garage"? that is his personal automobile museum collection and that specialises in Automobilia resale. Gerald needed a site that was more accessible for him to personally make changes to and had blogging features so I helped him set himself up on a WordPress installation.
During our interactions, we began discussions about cigars and scotch where I explained him that I knew quite a bit about what I know but I know that there's a whole world out there that I don't. Gerald doesn't have the same thirst he once had but has managed to amass quite a selection over the years of not only scotch but also cigars. A match made in debauchery perhaps?
My experience in scotch to this date was drinking it for about the past 4-years since I decided to step away from other types of alcoholic drink. Being a small business owner/operator I have been limited to what I can afford and to what has been available at the places I frequent. So, not much when you consider the variety of possibilities available. Unfortunately I hadn't been properly introduced to the uisge beatha during my many years as a bartender back in the days. At this point I knew the definitions of the difference between single malt, grain, double malt, and blended, but that was about it.
The generosity in spirits (get it?) of this man afforded me a copy of a book called Michael Jackson's Malt Whiskey Companion and another on cigars.
But: it is the "Scotch"? Whiskey I'm here to talk about today.
Due to my work/play schedule I never seem to find an opportunity to read the book and that's relatively fair I guess, but what Gerald decided to do in order to further my education was a beautiful surprise. He decided to not only continue to lend me the books until I have an opportunity to read them but he took me along on what amounts to an adventure through Whiskeys.
He invited me over one afternoon for a "tasting"?, whatever that was to mean. Needless to say his collection is quite extensive but we only sampled 7. It was the middle of a work day after all.
On the table today, and in order of tasting, was labelled:
Glenfiddich old cask 15 year
Tallisker 12 year
Highland park 12 year
Glenkeith ? year (year not labelled)
Glenmorangie 10 year
Bowmore Sherry cask 15 year
Chivas Imperial 18 year blend.
The years above were the labelled year and not the actual age. Some were unknown like the bottle he had given me as my bonus: an approximately 25 year old bottle of Glenfiddich "Special Old Reserve"? with no age indicator. But I'll talk about that after I open it in June for a friend's wedding.
Little did I know that I would spend the next three hours on an adventure through what scotch is how it got to be there and why it is.
Allow me to set the stage though as it was part of the ambiance. Gerald is a man of many interests and his home is a reflection of it. It was a beautiful sunny afternoon, if brisk, and Gerald's home is bright and sunny. His passions extend to contesting on-line, so his living area is walled on one side, by his best win to date, in a 70+inch TV that seemingly only gets channels with sporting events. But that isn't the most interesting thing in the room as it also houses the better part of Gerald's' private home collection of Automobilia. The longest wall in the space is festooned with all sorts of models, knick-knacks, items, tchotchkes, and more. I cannot begin to describe the numbers of icons represented there so I won't.
Instead I'll get to the chase and begin.
Glenfiddich old cask 15 year.
This was a great place to start actually. Smooth, what you'd expect from a Scotch as a neophyte, but better. Just a nice tasty Scotch that I wanted more of, which is always a good indicator. Floral and with a peppery note to it. I've long been involved in a love affair with pepper as spice and could really appreciate it making a visit to my glass. If you haven't much experience in Scotch yet then you can imagine this as "better"?. Being an admitted Glenfiddich fan I was already in heaven but wondered what I might experience next?
It is here we began the discussion on soda, water and ice. All my drinks on this day were with ice only. I've always preferred ice as it allows me to experience the flavour profile at my own pace. What I know now is that the more water you add releases the fruity and flowery flavours in the drink and the less you add preserves its natural peat, oak and bitter notes. It's as simple as that. Thanks to this discussion, and several others with experts since, I no longer get into protracted discussions about "how much water"? is the right amount with experts having been quoted at anything from a "splash at most"? (no more than 1/2oz) to a 50-50% mixture. It's what YOU like and nothing more. If I was to give advice: try 2 oz Scotch to about 3 cubes of ice first and as it melts it'll hit the point where you like it, then that's about your personal flavour. Every Scotch is different though, sometimes bottle to bottle, so play around with it a bit. I couldn't get myself to try the soda option as I can taste the Carbon Dioxide in carbonation so didn't want to influence my experience on this day. That and carbonation forces the alcohol into your blood stream faster and I needed to be productive later that day.
Tallisker 12 year.
HOLY COW! Peaty. I had thought I know a little about what people meant when they say "peaty"? but I just got schooled son. My mouth puckered then salivated as though I was eating savory. There is a bite to this one and the spice flavour is knocked up a bunch with white pepper and heat. Very complex, I just kept tasting and tasting and tasting as the different elements hit me in waves. Then clearly honey after, a new experience for me. The spices make it very warming and what I can only describe as comforting. Like a warm blanket on a cold night. As we drank it I couldn't figure out one element I was experiencing and was told it was cereals making for a body. I had such a strong desire to have more. This is a thinking Scotch as it just seemed to develop and develop more and more as we sat. I will recommend this to anyone who tells me they know peats, or even just Scotch, and help them to drink it no problem.
On peat: A fact I now know is that it is the Highland distilleries that are known as the peat distilleries (Speyside being the primary region but separated somehow from the Highlands). The Lowland Scotches are known for their light bodies and smoothness (but that depends on where you draw the lines). Islay is an island which is known for its peats and smoke notes and seems to be its own little region in itself. I could go on but I have a lifetime of Scotch knowledge to gain before I can be considered any authority on such matters. I do a quick google search and learn of other regions to include Campbeltown and "Island"? (separate from Islay), so on we go:
Highland Park 12 year.
Another strong bite here. I wrote down the word "round"? and can remember the aromatic of the citrus finish. Sweet though, and honey here too, but also creamy like a good cream-soda (if that helps?). If you don't think creamy and Scotch in the same thought, then you should try this out. The citrus notes actually refresh somehow, even as we were now beginning to sink in to the alcohol. More pepper on the end. A clean drink worthy of any glass.
Glenkeith ? year.
Back to an overall round, smooth and fine drink. More of what I thought of as a fine Scotch drink. I wish I knew more about this one as it was a quality drink but I think I was distracted by the previous bottles' peat followed by honey and then honey and citrus. I was thirsty but salivating and only made just a few short notes on this one.
Gerald had this all planned out of course and he drops me back into it.
Glenmorangie 10 year.
At first my pallet couldn't decide what I was tasting in this intensely robust dram. I thought maybe a caramel or caramel cream? What was amazing about this one was that there was no noticeable alcohol taste or smell but you could detect the smell of vanilla from first pour. A very fruity and creamy thick drink with what I learned was lemon, nectarine and apple. Possibly the most oak, rich with flavour drink of the day (and that I've ever experienced). Not a daily drinker by any stretch but a genuine treat!
Bowmore Sherry cask 15 year.
My notes start to get a little messier here but I'm pretty sure that it reads as "15' year. I mention the choco-mocha impression it gave me, smoky and that it was so thick that it seemed to cling to my glass like an aperitif liquor. Compared to the rest, it was a very demanding drink in that it made me stop dead in my tracks to consider it. Peat, fruity, spicy, creamy, pine tree flavoured, desert like and smoke filled Scotch. Another type I hadn't considered as part of the world of Scotch before and one I would likely keep a bottle at the back of my cabinet for after large meals at holidays.
Chivas Imperial 18 year blend.
What a great way to end the day. I note that this was a "perfect middle"? whiskey, not too busy or thought provoking. It had a note of citrus, barley, some vanilla, a little spice and you could taste the oak. Easy to drink and not busy at all. No one element was trying to jump to the forefront or was waving franticly for my attention from my tastebuds on the aftertaste. Perfect to end on.
All in I would say that I didn't experience anything that wasn't now a plan for my personal collection in the making.
Personal favorite? Likely the Bowmore. I would also keep the Tallisker as a close second and maybe even a tie for first as it was just a totally different experience.
A little wobbly and at the end of my time limit I sat with Gerald a short while longer over a cigar each and tried to organise this post in my head a little wondering how I was going to explain the adventure I had just experienced. I don't remember getting any more work done that day, but I know I have a lot more appreciation for the water of life. Definitely a task worth the effort.
Gerald's doors are always open when he's around and is always up to good conversation. He only has a policy that you say "please"? if you are looking for any of his Freebies he offers frequently and I highly suggest that if you are ever in the Lower Mainland of Vancouver and are at all interested in motorcycles, cars or man caves you look him up. Information available at his website www.hollywoodsgarage.ca.
Writing this has made me thirsty and seeing as how it's a beautiful sunny work day I think I better go or the temptation will draw me in again.
Slainte' all. _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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albo Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:20 am Post subject: |
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A very entertaining post and by the sounds of it a great introduction to the world of whisky. Greald sounds like quite an eclectic guy and it sounds like you were in the right place at the right time on this one.
Welcome the forum. Hopefully you'll stay a while and enjoy the deep pool of knowledge here. Feel free to ask questions and seek advice and most of all post up your own thoughts and feelings.
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome my fellow Canadian to the Forum. Haven't been to British Columbia in over 25 years but have fond memories of vacations there: Vancouver, Squamish, the Sea to Sky Highway, Whistler and Lillooet, way up the Rocky Mountains.
Sounds like your scotch tasting experience created more enthusiasm, interest and information about scotch whisky and particularly single malts. This Forum platform will allow more of the same for you and interaction with a great assemblage of scotch whisky aficionados. _________________ "Always carry a large flagon of whisky in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."
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Bookie Master Of Malts

Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 945
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Welcome to the SMW forum and great first post. As you say whisky should be drunk the way you enjoy it. What i would say is perhaps try the whisky first before adding ice as it does dull some of the flavours, then add some ice and you will see it is like a different whisky. |
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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bookie wrote: | | Welcome to the SMW forum and great first post. As you say whisky should be drunk the way you enjoy it. What i would say is perhaps try the whisky first before adding ice as it does dull some of the flavours, then add some ice and you will see it is like a different whisky. |
Absolutely, in my case: at each taste I started a fresh glass with fresh ice cubes so the melt was minimal and then allowed the melt to release more and more into the drink as we sipped. Needless to say, the cubes hadn't fully melted by the end of each drink so as we talked I munched them and used that along with a cracker or two to cleanse my pallet between. _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: Oh and: |
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 _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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Alexppp Master Of Malts

Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 1791
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| That's an old looking Highland Park bottle (also I've never seen that Talisker before) - sorry to get all geeky on you but I wonder how it differs from the current incarnation of the 12 year old, if at all... |
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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Alexppp wrote: | | That's an old looking Highland Park bottle (also I've never seen that Talisker before) - sorry to get all geeky on you but I wonder how it differs from the current incarnation of the 12 year old, if at all... |
that was part of the problem yes.
I don't know unfortunately, this was the only incarnation I've experienced yet.
Gerald has been collecting Scotch and Whiskey's over his adult life and there was no expectation that it would become a mass like it had. He kept no records on who or when the bottle was bought nor gifted. _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: So happy! |
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AN UPDATE:
Good News (for me)! I told Gerald about the post and he wants to provide me with a list of ALL of the bottles in his collection and put it up to you guys to decide which we taste next time!!!! I'm ecstatic! _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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William Administrator


Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 4056 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Welcome LuCiDFoX.
Sounds like it was a great afternoon dramming. Your friend Gerald has had a few of those bottles in your picture tucked away for a while the Talisker 12 would have been from either the 1970s or 1980s a collector would probably pay £400 perhaps even double that on a good day for a Talisker 12 from the 1970s. The Highland Park 12 is from the 1980s i would say and would fetch perhaps £100 plus. The Glen Keith looks like it was the 1980s also
I will look forward to seeing your list as going by what your friend was already generous enough to share with you i am sure he will have a few more gems tucked away.
Slainte _________________ There's no bad whisky. Just good whisky and better whisky. |
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albo Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Excellent I'm looking forward to seeing what Greald has tucked away. Could be some pretty special stuff |
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LuCiDFoX Member

Joined: 24 Feb 2014 Posts: 12 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| albo wrote: | | Excellent I'm looking forward to seeing what Greald has tucked away. Could be some pretty special stuff |
Gerald is all excited that I'm in a conversation about this and gave me a "whats up front" list of what he sees at first. His email follows:
Today's list
Aberfeldy-- 12 year
Longmorn-- 15 year
Isle of Jura-- 8 year
Black Barrel-- single grain
Ballantine's"30 year
Arran"Robert Burns Edition*
Cardhu"12 year
Bruchladdich"15 year
Auchentoshan 12 year
Usquaebach---Twelve Stone Flagons Ltd. (stoneware flagon)
Glenkinchie"10 year
*Robbie Burns day is January 25 so maybe leave that off the list. Next time? January 25, 2015?
Pick five?
I still have lots more, these just filled the note pad, You've got me all excited.
solicit others choices, I may have them. What's their favorite?
These were collected over the last 25 years, stored correctly, Some corks have issues when pulled.
Do you need pictures? _________________ -LuCiDFoX
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Big Mac Master Of Malts

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 2216 Location: USA - Formerly Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Having a quick look at your list
Longmorn 15 has been discontinued and replace by the Longmorn 16, the 15 was an excellent whisky.
Jura 8 year old is long gone, 1980s i think and replaced with a Jura 10
Ballantines 30 is superb
I havent seen Black Barrel single grain for years, it is from William Grants Girvan distillery, it was never widely available, it never had an age statement, not sure if it is still around
Glenkinchie 10 has been replaced by a 12 year old. |
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albo Master Of Malts

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Firstly get Gerald a log in here. He seems like just the sort of chap who'd go down a storm here.
As for the picks.
Start with the Glenkinchie
Aberfeldy
Longmorn
Ballantines
Finish with the Bruchladdich |
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albo Master Of Malts

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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Firstly get Gerald a log in here. He seems like just the sort of chap who'd go down a storm here.
As for the picks.
Start with the Glenkinchie
Aberfeldy
Longmorn
Ballantines
Finish with the Bruchladdich |
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