Whisky Forum - Port Ellen 'Old & Rare' 1982 30 year platunum

torcross

I was looking at the above bottle but could not justify the price tag my dealer was asking (£439), I asked him what was the best price he could do and he then said he has a bottle with about 50 - 60 ml missing as the seal has broken, he said this only happened about a month or so ago, before I reveal how much i was offered it for can I ask how much you would pay?. Just to mention the seal is still part on and it comes fully boxed, the retail price on whisky exchange is Â£599.

I look forward to your replies

Thanks

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albo · Master Of Malts Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888

TheWM · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:11 pm Post subject:

I'd have offered him Â£35, maybe up to Â£50, depending on my mood.

This is safe in the knowledge that he has already written off the cost of the bottle and anything he gets now is a nice little bunsen.

I'd mention that to him too if he got too shirty, but then, if I was in one of those moods, I'd be up for a row and let him know in no uncertain terms that trading standards / taxman / D&L would love to know about these going ons.*

Soon learn him.

* of course, I wouldn't ever grass him up. Just good to have leverage Wink

albo · Master Of Malts Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888

torcross · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject:

Hi cheers for the reply, nothing fishy, I actually paid Â£80 and think it is a fair price for something I could never afford, even if it is 50ml lost it will still give me a chance to have the other 650ml.

Would you seriously only pay Â£33.33 for it ?

I do trust the seller so for me i do not dispute that the contents are genuine.

Could you please explain how it will continue to lose its contents (other than me drinking it).

opelfruit · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject:

TheWM · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject:

albo · Master Of Malts Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888

torcross · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject:

I am aware of the angels share etc but the obvious solution is to place it in another bottle, anyway at Â£80 I'm willing to give it a try.

thanks for the advice

Blackadder · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:26 pm Post subject:

If i 100% trusted the seller i would certainly go for it at Â£80, I hope it is a good one torcross.

albo · Master Of Malts Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 1888

TheWM · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:43 pm Post subject:

torcross · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject:

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TheWM · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject:

Hard to be sure from the pictures, but I'm assuming the colours in the top label are platinum, if so, would match what I've seen.

I was more curious as to how the seal was opened. And from a very untrained eye, it looks like someone's had a nip. I can't see how that bottle has lost that much by having the seal slightly broken, without in the very least the cork being unleashed.

When was it bottled, 2 years ago?

I do caveat that I've never opened a bottle (seal) and left it for a couple of years to see how much has evaporated, so I expect to stand corrected.

torcross · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:57 pm Post subject:

It is part of the platinum range and yes it was bottled in 2012, like everything the price changes quickly (look at auctions for snow phoenix 3 months ago you could pick up a bottle for Â£100 and now its a least double) but the guy who owns the company assures me he paid wholesale Â£270 in 2012.