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Stevedigs04
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:01 pm    Post subject: HP 10 LOL? Reply with quote

Hello All,

I love to start a good convo and to me I think this is a pretty shady move by HP...

Personally I loved the 12 it was one of my first single malts ( im sure many people are in the same boat), it was always a "reasonable" price... for here in Canada lol and very drinkable.

I know this happened over some time but it really feels like HP made up this 10 y/o release because single malts scotch gained alot of attention world wide and their 12 began to fly off the shelves as a good price point.

Whats a good multiple million dollar distillery to do? Jack up the price and "release" a lower age statement for a lower price so the people who used to enjoy the 12 don't stop buying their products completely?

Anyone else see it differently?

-Steve
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't get the 10 over here so we don't really know on this specific one. Though Quaich1 holds the HP10 in very high esteem. He is a fellow Canadian.

To be fair to HP doing this is not as bad as the likes of Macallan who abandoned age statements altogether and went NAS with their 1824 range. Everyone is at it, it seems HP are doing similar things but at least they haven't gone down the NAS road just yet
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Highland Park 10 is not available here in Scotland.

I would guess the HP 10 it is Highland Parks attempt to preserve ageing stock. There is now a huge demand for single malt worldwide and i dont think enough ageng stock to meet this demand in the near future. HP removed the age statement whisky from travel retail some time ago and replaced it with no age statement whisky. The move to HP 10 in some markets is probably just another attempt to preserve stock.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

albo wrote:
We don't get the 10 over here so we don't really know on this specific one. Though Quaich1 holds the HP10 in very high esteem. He is a fellow Canadian.

To be fair to HP doing this is not as bad as the likes of Macallan who abandoned age statements altogether and went NAS with their 1824 range. Everyone is at it, it seems HP are doing similar things but at least they haven't gone down the NAS road just yet


I personally would rate the HP10 above the HP12. I agree with your last comment Alun. Also, as I mentioned in my taste notes when I reviewed this one, it has "a certain finesse and balance about it" even as a youthful expression. Some expressions are winners regardless of lower age or lower cost which goes against the grain that excellent whiskies have to be expensive and old. But it happens.....


How many days Alun till you can get back to tasting whisky?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quaich1 wrote:
albo wrote:
We don't get the 10 over here so we don't really know on this specific one. Though Quaich1 holds the HP10 in very high esteem. He is a fellow Canadian.

To be fair to HP doing this is not as bad as the likes of Macallan who abandoned age statements altogether and went NAS with their 1824 range. Everyone is at it, it seems HP are doing similar things but at least they haven't gone down the NAS road just yet


I personally would rate the HP10 above the HP12. I agree with your last comment Alun. Also, as I mentioned in my taste notes when I reviewed this one, it has "a certain finesse and balance about it" even as a youthful expression. Some expressions are winners regardless of lower age or lower cost which goes against the grain that excellent whiskies have to be expensive and old. But it happens.....


How many days Alun till you can get back to tasting whisky?


I don't know. It feels like a life time. The wife is due Feb 25th but my back/shoulder isn't getting any better so still taking the pills. I'll be back at the dr next week I think. Could know more then
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djmaxliving wrote:
A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cheers djmaxliving, i dont think you will find a better price than that for the HP 12, I just ordered a bottle.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent price. Its on offer at Asda for 28 at the moment.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djmaxliving wrote:
A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is a few good bargains on Amazon these days, certainly worth watching as some of there offers are short lived.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carson wrote:
djmaxliving wrote:
A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is a few good bargains on Amazon these days, certainly worth watching as some of there offers are short lived.


Yip, it's back up to it's original price, I'm glad I bought a bottle. I will be checking amazon for good offers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djmaxliving wrote:
Carson wrote:
djmaxliving wrote:
A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is a few good bargains on Amazon these days, certainly worth watching as some of there offers are short lived.


Yip, it's back up to it's original price, I'm glad I bought a bottle. I will be checking amazon for good offers.
It is showing the price from another seller, if you check the right hand column it is still available to order now from amazon for £22 and will be dispatched when it comes back into stock.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grant M wrote:
djmaxliving wrote:
Carson wrote:
djmaxliving wrote:
A bit random here, but just bought on amazon, a bottle of HP 12 year old, including delivery £22, bargin ?. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001HUA3FY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is a few good bargains on Amazon these days, certainly worth watching as some of there offers are short lived.


Yip, it's back up to it's original price, I'm glad I bought a bottle. I will be checking amazon for good offers.
It is showing the price from another seller, if you check the right hand column it is still available to order now from amazon for £22 and will be dispatched when it comes back into stock.


Didn't even notice that Grant.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a strong dislike for you Europeans who actually get a chance at reasonably priced drams...

HP 12 is $77 canadian here (roughly 42 pounds)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevedigs04 wrote:
I have a strong dislike for you Europeans who actually get a chance at reasonably priced drams...

HP 12 is $77 canadian here (roughly 42 pounds)

-Steve

Your government would rather the citizens had better health than drinking problems ?. Canada is a great country and you pay the price for it ?.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]
Your government would rather the citizens had better health than drinking problems ?. Canada is a great country and you pay the price for it ?.[/quote]

Thats a fun point, EXCEPT these high prices are only on single malt scotch because they can, and its became much more popular in the recent years what with the likes of Ron Burgandy and Barney Stinson.

You can still buy a 70cl bottle of low level vodka or whisky for $23 -$25 bucks Canadian, which is still higher then most countries but not outrageous like $77 for a 12 y/o main stream scotch and will still get you just as wasted and promotes just as many "drinking problems".

Also my $.02 I dont think very many people with serious drinking problems are looking at fine single malt scotch as their answer for daily drunks, no one can afford that lol.

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