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Kempy71 Single Malt Member

Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Posts: 35 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:57 pm Post subject: 15 year old Non-chilled filtered Glenfiddich Distillery Edt |
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Hi guys, this is my 1st time and 1st post on this forum. I have started collecting single malts (very recently only so a mere novice) and I have a bottle of the above which is 51% alcohol volume.
The thing is, if I add either water or ice to it, it goes very cloudy - I have never experienced this when adding water to a single malt. Is this meant to happen with this particular whiskey or should this be drank neat?
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TheWM Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Nov 2012 Posts: 2037 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there and welcome.
In short your whisky has become contaminated. DO NOT drink it*
* I will dispose of it for you for free.
I'm only kidding. Your fiddich is, as your say non chill filtered, which essentially means it has not been 'frozen' before bottling to remove contaminants.
It is the way that whisky should be and what you are experiencing is perfectly normal - just one tip though....
Don't add ice
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Kempy. Welcome to the Forum. That's an enjoyable dram. Folks do often add water to a higher % abv dram or experience it with or without water and compare. I'm curious, how much water have you been adding? Often with single malts, folks use a dropper to add water and surprisingly small quantities of water, mere drops, can change the nose and flavor complexion of scotch. And then there's the matter of the variety of water added....Some folks use water sold through companies that match the origin of the water to a given type of scotch. Islay sourced water for Islay drams, for example. Others use only certain brands of Spring water. I'm partial to Fiji Spring water. Others use tap water bearing in mind that different countries use differing amounts of chlorine and chemicals, etc. in their water. So, you thought you had a single question about whisky and water.....In any event, it does all go down the same way but getting the most enjoyment out of your dram is of course the key and personal taste is the order of the day.
Best wishes.
p.s.
Leicester City F.C. is doing very well in the EPL, 5th on the Table,
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Kempy71 Single Malt Member

Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Posts: 35 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ah WM you are from my neck of the woods, I'm a Lewisham man born, thank you for your reply - and breathing a sigh of relief that although it is essentially still contaminated, it is actually a normal response to adding water to this particular dram 👍
Quaich1 - with regards to the amount of water, I generally add 1part water to 3parts whiskey as this was the advice given when visiting the Glenmorangie and Dalwhinnie Distilleries in Scotland.
Do you have better advice for this particular tipple?
I also have an 18 yr old Small Batch Reserve Glenfiddich and a 14 yr old Caribbean Cask Balvenie.
I do like smokey/peaty whiskies such as Laphroig and Lagavulin - do you have any other, maybe less commercial drams I should consider?
Thank you both for my welcome and taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
By the way Quaich1 although I now live in Leicester I am a Liverpool fan thru n thru 👍 |
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sorren Master Of Malts


Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 2329 Location: uk
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the forum.. As your question has already been answered I won't bother to rewrite.. My advice is always try neat before adding water. If you prefer it with water then add small amounts at a time.. If you want ice then add ice.. It is your whisky..drink it your way.. But what should have been said is .. DONT ADD ICE .. It is more polite that way .. |
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Crane Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1345 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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As the others say, nothing to worry about, whisky which has not been chill filtered will go cloudy when it drops below 46% ABV and gets cold.
Chill filtration removes fatty acids, proteins and esters from whisky which makes it look good on a shelf or in a glass when it gets cold but it also removes flavour. |
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Quaich1 Master Of Malts


Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 5749 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Kempy71 wrote: | Ah WM you are from my neck of the woods, I'm a Lewisham man born, thank you for your reply - and breathing a sigh of relief that although it is essentially still contaminated, it is actually a normal response to adding water to this particular dram 👍
Quaich1 - with regards to the amount of water, I generally add 1part water to 3parts whiskey as this was the advice given when visiting the Glenmorangie and Dalwhinnie Distilleries in Scotland.
Do you have better advice for this particular tipple?
I also have an 18 yr old Small Batch Reserve Glenfiddich and a 14 yr old Caribbean Cask Balvenie.
I do like smokey/peaty whiskies such as Laphroig and Lagavulin - do you have any other, maybe less commercial drams I should consider?
Thank you both for my welcome and taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
By the way Quaich1 although I now live in Leicester I am a Liverpool fan thru n thru 👍 |
Glad to hear that about you being a Liverpool supporter as I too support the Reds from afar here in Canada. Let's hope Klopp can turn things around for the club. For higher abv drams, I usually start only by putting 5 or 6 drops of water. If I feel the need, I may add more. I've had drams in exclusive pubs in Canada where an ounce of a super-premium whisky can be $75.00 and it would pain me to water it down and lose its complexity. My rule of thumb is you can always add more water but you can't take any away.
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dramblersanonymous Master Of Malts

Joined: 11 Aug 2015 Posts: 439 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Quaich1 wrote: | | Kempy71 wrote: | Ah WM you are from my neck of the woods, I'm a Lewisham man born, thank you for your reply - and breathing a sigh of relief that although it is essentially still contaminated, it is actually a normal response to adding water to this particular dram 👍
Quaich1 - with regards to the amount of water, I generally add 1part water to 3parts whiskey as this was the advice given when visiting the Glenmorangie and Dalwhinnie Distilleries in Scotland.
Do you have better advice for this particular tipple?
I also have an 18 yr old Small Batch Reserve Glenfiddich and a 14 yr old Caribbean Cask Balvenie.
I do like smokey/peaty whiskies such as Laphroig and Lagavulin - do you have any other, maybe less commercial drams I should consider?
Thank you both for my welcome and taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
By the way Quaich1 although I now live in Leicester I am a Liverpool fan thru n thru 👍 |
Glad to hear that about you being a Liverpool supporter as I too support the Reds from afar here in Canada. Let's hope Klopp can turn things around for the club. For higher abv drams, I usually start only by putting 5 or 6 drops of water. If I feel the need, I may add more. I've had drams in exclusive pubs in Canada where an ounce of a super-premium whisky can be $75.00 and it would pain me to water it down and lose its complexity. My rule of thumb is you can always add more water but you can't take any away.
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Surely you can (almost) always add more whisky?! |
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CGRenn Master Of Malts


Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 684
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| dramblersanonymous wrote: | | Quaich1 wrote: | | Kempy71 wrote: | Ah WM you are from my neck of the woods, I'm a Lewisham man born, thank you for your reply - and breathing a sigh of relief that although it is essentially still contaminated, it is actually a normal response to adding water to this particular dram 👍
Quaich1 - with regards to the amount of water, I generally add 1part water to 3parts whiskey as this was the advice given when visiting the Glenmorangie and Dalwhinnie Distilleries in Scotland.
Do you have better advice for this particular tipple?
I also have an 18 yr old Small Batch Reserve Glenfiddich and a 14 yr old Caribbean Cask Balvenie.
I do like smokey/peaty whiskies such as Laphroig and Lagavulin - do you have any other, maybe less commercial drams I should consider?
Thank you both for my welcome and taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
By the way Quaich1 although I now live in Leicester I am a Liverpool fan thru n thru 👍 |
Glad to hear that about you being a Liverpool supporter as I too support the Reds from afar here in Canada. Let's hope Klopp can turn things around for the club. For higher abv drams, I usually start only by putting 5 or 6 drops of water. If I feel the need, I may add more. I've had drams in exclusive pubs in Canada where an ounce of a super-premium whisky can be $75.00 and it would pain me to water it down and lose its complexity. My rule of thumb is you can always add more water but you can't take any away.
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Surely you can (almost) always add more whisky?! |
Nope! The Dram is unsaveable and you have to have another go. |
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