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Genuine Risk
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 Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:38 am Post subject: Springbank Bere 11 |
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Reading the statment on Springbank Web site about the price of the new Bere barley 11 year old and was looking at point 4
"There is a dramatically increased cost in producing whisky from barley grown in Kintyre compared to other parts of Scotland. This is mostly due to three factors: the cost of sourcing the barley itself is usually higher; we have to “work harder†with the barley during the malting process in order to be able to turn it into whisky; we get a lower yield from the local barley (approximately 10% fewer litres of alcohol from each tonne of barley)."
13 tonnes of barley went into the 9000 bottles and say the barley was £100 more expensive than normal it should add 14 pence per bottle ish extra over normal.
I am not saying that the price point of £82.50 is wrong but they could have cut out all this crap and left the bit in about wanting to make a profit.
Full statement in spingbank news section on Web site.
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Genuine Risk
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Just had a discussion with Springbank on facebook and they are adamant about the statement above. As a result they have invited me over to show me the extra work involved
In bere barley. In all honesty I found the approach very refreshing but not surprising knowing a couple of people from the area.
So will take a camera and report back here.
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krakow
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| A sincere question... what is the particular appeal or advantage of using local barley if it is so difficult and expensive to do so? |
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Bookie
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At the end of the day it is a business and about making profit, I am sure it is more expensive to source and malt local barley but wasn't it sourced 11 years ago when they distilled it. They know they can get the money they are asking for it, I am sure this is a highly anticipated release and it will probably sell out very quickly.
I will look forward to your report |
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Whisky Dog
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| krakow wrote: | | A sincere question... what is the particular appeal or advantage of using local barley if it is so difficult and expensive to do so? |
Springbank is not all about profit, it supports it local community in many of the ways it produces its whisky, and provides jobs by doing so. |
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Trebor
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently it's on sale now for £82.50 |
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krakow
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Whisky Dog wrote: | | krakow wrote: | | A sincere question... what is the particular appeal or advantage of using local barley if it is so difficult and expensive to do so? |
Springbank is not all about profit, it supports it local community in many of the ways it produces its whisky, and provides jobs by doing so. |
Thanks. I was thinking about it later and definitely understand the positives of working & thinking locally. I guess I was surprised that they wrote so much about the economics, trying to pre-emptively defend the pricing from criticism, rather than writing much positive about why they wanted to do it in the first place!
It made me think about how I'm part of a scheme here to have locally-grown vegetables delivered weekly - it's certainly a lot more expensive than buying them from the supermarket, but I'm happy to pay a bit more in order to support local small business/enterprise and to try and build a self-sustaining local economy and community. |
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TheWM
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| krakow wrote: |
Thanks. I was thinking about it later and definitely understand the positives of working & thinking locally. I guess I was surprised that they wrote so much about the economics, trying to pre-emptively defend the pricing from criticism, rather than writing much positive about why they wanted to do it in the first place!
It made me think about how I'm part of a scheme here to have locally-grown vegetables delivered weekly - it's certainly a lot more expensive than buying them from the supermarket, but I'm happy to pay a bit more in order to support local small business/enterprise and to try and build a self-sustaining local economy and community. |
*off topic*
Grow your own and give the surplus away for free (trade cucumbers for apples etc...)
Even in London with garden space at a premium this model works well and is the best self sustaining, environmentally friendly way of managing food.
But back on topic - distilleries like Springbank are what all distilleries should aim for (albeit there's still more that they could do) It's gutting to know that a distillery like Talisker only needs 6 people full time to manage their total output. |
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krakow
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| TheWM wrote: | | krakow wrote: | | It made me think about how I'm part of a scheme here to have locally-grown vegetables delivered weekly - it's certainly a lot more expensive than buying them from the supermarket, but I'm happy to pay a bit more in order to support local small business/enterprise and to try and build a self-sustaining local economy and community. |
*off topic*
Grow your own and give the surplus away for free (trade cucumbers for apples etc...)
Even in London with garden space at a premium this model works well and is the best self sustaining, environmentally friendly way of managing food. |
I'd love to, but sadly it's a dream rather than any likely reality here. Lack of time is the main problem (self employment seems to mean working 24/7 the way we've managed it for the last few years!), but space is also an issue, with only a small shared garden. There are quite a few allotments in Glasgow, but I understand they're highly sought after. One day maybe we'll have a house and some spare time... |
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