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Buncie Single Malt Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 pm Post subject: £1000 investment budget. |
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| You've got £1000 ish investment budget, what's your choice ?. One bottle. |
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TheWM Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Nov 2012 Posts: 2037 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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What time frame and what returns are you seeking? Without sounding too pedantic.
This is fairly important given you can flip macallans for almost 1000% in a fairly short time frame (like a month). Whether that will last, I doubt it. But if you were lucky you could have been in and out with a handsome return.
Therefore given investment is your topic - looking at one bottle to buy and hold to make bucks on is a pretty much not the way to make the most money (or other investments for that matter), unless again you get lucky (see above). |
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Buncie Single Malt Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Your observations are all relevant considerations.
Holding time about 8 to 10 years.
Return: as it's an investment (hopefully) the expected return would be relatively high.
The MacAllans that are making big and quick returns at the moment would I assume make excellent keepers for a few years.
Would an individual cask bottle be a better option than a single bottle from a series?. |
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Buncie Single Malt Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| How about the current MacAllan 25 year old sherry oak @£1350 |
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davidbe Master Of Malts

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| Buncie wrote: | | How about the current MacAllan 25 year old sherry oak @£1350 |
Retail prices are above secondary at the moment, but after 8-10 years who knows. |
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eelbrook Master Of Malts

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| At any given moment in time, Macallan 25yo and Macallan 30yo retail prices do always exceed secondary market prices. But they are cast iron investments over the longer-term. |
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Dave h Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Jan 2018 Posts: 302 Location: Perth Scotland
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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What would be an acceptable return, 25% or more?
Would a Glendronach Kingsman be investment material and have some money back. Great distillery, bottles being drunk and less available, still sought after. Nice all round package. Who knows if further Kingsman movie whisky releases will follow, so will potentially be the first of a collection yet to come to be known. But forgetting all that ramble... straight talking, you can buy for £700-750 at auction... held for 10 years will surely see it around £1000 in 2028? |
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eelbrook Master Of Malts

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Growth from £750 to £1000 in a decade isn't that great. Only about 2.7% pa compound. |
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Dave h Master Of Malts

Joined: 26 Jan 2018 Posts: 302 Location: Perth Scotland
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess it's all about knowing when to sell.. it may have its growth in the first couple of years and then only fluctuate for the next few years while being owner. Still get a return on initial investment but different proposition looking at steady annual growth as might be wiser to sell and reinvest your initial investment plus growth. |
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Owls7 Double Malt Member

Joined: 07 Oct 2017 Posts: 80 Location: Wiltshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I had the same amount of money to invest so I went down the route of two founder memberships one at the lakes distillery which give you a ten bottle collection and one with the Kingsbarns distillery which gives you a five bottle collection don't know if the collections will be worth anymore in years to come but keeping fingers crossed. |
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