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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Cynical Benromach Reply with quote

Repackaged the 10 year old 100% proof and call it batch 1 and charge over £10 more a bottle. Zero respect for customers.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not happy to see it but no surprise really, just following other brands such as Aberlour a'bunadh
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually not that bad compared to other distilleries (ahem, looking at you Balblair). It still tells you how old it is with the vintage and bottling dates, and is still at cask strength, unlike say the Aberlour Casg Annamh which sits at the old a'bunadh price.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a greedy industry, everyone is at it. It's all about the money. No one cares about the customer. Repackaging is the smokescreen for higher pricing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly Dave. The sad thing is that Benromach had a good value product there and have just thrown away that good will. It is still only a 10 yo and it now costs £60, that's silly. After the novelty of batch 1 has faded who's going to want that at that price? Further their range is just a bit behind at all levels now with the 10yo and 15yo being 43 and not 46%. A good product being badly managed. I can get a Springbank 12yo Cask Strength for the same price as their 10 yo CS as well as 12 yo Kilkerran, Deanston etc. Bad management in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the price hikes are all the rage benromach dont seem that bad there are a lot more out there taking the mickey
this is just the tip of the iceberg nothing good about whisky prices at the moment Sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm usually one if the first to complain about prices and/or age or quality reduction, but I'm going to stand up for Benromach here.

The 10yo 100 proof was the same stuff as the 10yo but just higher abv. The additional price was pretty much a direct percentage increase when compared to the abv percentage increase.

This new whisky is slightly higher and and based on prices of the 10yo would be £50 if it was the same whisky, at higher abv. But it's not the same whisky, it's different stuff. It's a vintage bottling and is limited in run, this can easily account for an extra £10 on the bottle. Next years release will be a different vintage and therefore a different whisky, albeit likely similar. You pay an increased premium for that.

Personally I don't mind £60 for a limited vintage 10yo from someone like Benromach, at full proof.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unblended wrote:
the price hikes are all the rage benromach dont seem that bad there are a lot more out there taking the mickey
this is just the tip of the iceberg nothing good about whisky prices at the moment Sad


I agree with other sentiments expressed here and Benromach are doing what others have already started, maximising profits, they are by no means the worst offenders.
Lets face it, the product is the same in reality giving it a vintage and a batch number is fooling nobody.

It is a different slant on the same product in order to alter the price structure/price point of that bottling.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Personally I don't mind £60 for a limited vintage 10yo from someone like Benromach, at full proof.,
Hi Master, that's fair enough I suppose. However I suggest that when things gets too expensive for you, you may wish you had protested earlier.
It's a bit like house prices. Nobody want's their kids to be homeless but as long as we can afford the mortgage we don't want our house price to decrease.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MartinG wrote:
'Personally I don't mind £60 for a limited vintage 10yo from someone like Benromach, at full proof.,
Hi Master, that's fair enough I suppose. However I suggest that when things gets too expensive for you, you may wish you had protested earlier.
It's a bit like house prices. Nobody want's their kids to be homeless but as long as we can afford the mortgage we don't want our house price to decrease.


Believe me, I've been more than vocal on here over the years regarding prices. I'm boycotting Balblair now (my favourite distillery as well, for years).

In just don't think that this is particularly bad. I think it's moving in line with how things are, and in fact actually undercutting many stuff out there, of lower quality, in the wider market.

If you want something of this quality (and it's high quality whisky), from a limited vintage at cask strength, then this is the price. You can pick up the standard 10yo for £34 if you don't want something limited.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think this is limited in the true sense of the word, lets face it you could call all Benromach 100 proof bottled on any particular day a batch, this is just a marketing play on words.
Where a distillery is still open and producing its whisky is not limited, it is just variances of an ongoing product.
The only limited whisky are the closed distillery offerings.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of the definition of 'limited' it's still a decent price for a cask strength whisky with an age statement. It's not exactly cheap but it's not taking the *** like so many others, such as the new Balblair range or the a'bunadh price hike.

EDIT: Sorry William/John, didn't realise that word was not allowed Embarassed


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we look at the prices of nas whiskies from certain distilleries as well as limited editions
what benromach have done is very fair
as some off the others are tacking the mickey
maybe we should have a list if so benromach would be at the bottom
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unblended wrote:
if we look at the prices of nas whiskies from certain distilleries as well as limited editions
what benromach have done is very fair
as some off the others are tacking the mickey
maybe we should have a list if so benromach would be at the bottom


I think it is just the slow mission creep of the whisky industry in general of maximising their profits which to a point is understandable, in a general sense it is the way they justify what they are doing that leaves a bad taste in the mouth to some consumers.

A £10 increase might not sound much but as a % increase it is roughly 20%, how much do your wages go up a year 1 or 2% if you are lucky I suspect.

In a years time if it goes up another £10 will that be ok?

They must have done their homework and looked at the market and deemed it a reasonable increase, yes they will be at the bottom compared to the likes of Balblair but if you are getting 20% increases for the least steep rise compared to product then it is a very worrying sign of what is to come.
As always distillers will charge what people are prepared to pay, it is always personal choice when you regard worth and what your idea of value is.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lincoln imp wrote:
They must have done their homework and looked at the market and deemed it a reasonable increase, yes they will be at the bottom compared to the likes of Balblair but if you are getting 20% increases for the least steep rise compared to product then it is a very worrying sign of what is to come.
As always distillers will charge what people are prepared to pay, it is always personal choice when you regard worth and what your idea of value is.


Well, yes - that's obvious. Right now it's still a decent price for what it is. If/when it goes up more it probably won't be so I won't buy. There will always be options, for now Benromach is among them.
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