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Southcoast Boy
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 Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm Post subject: Daftmill single cask releases |
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I have just seen Daftmill are releasing a number of single casks going to well known retailers to sell on.
I remember last year desperately trying to get hold of the Royal Mile single cask and missed out.
On the same day some of you secured a bottle from luvians and their single cask.
Out of unterest what did you all do with them?
Drink, store or flip? |
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Kava
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a Daftmill 2006 Berry Brothers & Rudd bottling from a sherry cask which I drunk, a heavily sherried whisky and not a great one, the cask probably overpowered the Daftmill whisky, I wont be chasing a another bottle for a while. |
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Southcoast Boy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Another just like that has been on sale today. It goes without saying, I have missed it so far.
I can't help it. But get swept up in the frenzy of it all.
The level headed should head what you and others say, that it is just another heavily sherry monster which could be from any distillery. Such an apt name as we all go daft for the daftmill.
How did the hype around get to fever pitch? Most people say it's good whisky, but there's better out there. |
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Coco33
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Luckily managed to get the 2009 berry bros and today buy the 2009 UK exclusive both will be opened and drank because every Daftmill I’ve tried has been fantastic in my opinion especially the single casks that take it to another level!! |
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Southcoast Boy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well done on your purchase and that you enjoy drinking them.
How dI'd you get the heads up they were going on sale and get in there?
Is it all luck, or am I doing something wrong? |
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Coco33
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Cheers mate it’s definitely just luck and right place right time!! Also you learn whereabouts they are usually sold and just have to keep an eye out. |
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Southcoast Boy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Enjoy.
Maybe you can let us know if it was worth your hard earned when you decide to crack it open.
Managed to secure a couple of James Eadies latest black whiskies via Robbies. So not feeling so bad on missing the daftmill.  |
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lincoln imp
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I have purchased the summer and winter releases and really liked them but I refuse to entrer a ballot for any whisky on principle because that fuels the secondry market and encourages flippers who have no interest in the whisky only money and stop genuine drinkers getting the whisky for the release price.
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deadz101
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I tried a couple of the summer and winter releases, really liked the last one I had at one of the local pubs. The single cask releases sound a bit crazy, didn’t someone getting punched at one of the queues last year? |
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lowlander
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Southcoast Boy wrote: | Another just like that has been on sale today. It goes without saying, I have missed it so far.
I can't help it. But get swept up in the frenzy of it all.
The level headed should head what you and others say, that it is just another heavily sherry monster which could be from any distillery. Such an apt name as we all go daft for the daftmill.
How did the hype around get to fever pitch? Most people say it's good whisky, but there's better out there. |
I've been lucky enough to attend the Fife Whisky Festival and tasted a huge selection of their standard, cask strength and sherry releases.
Personally, I think they are nice whiskies and I like the ethos with the owners who could have quite easily made a quick buck by selling their whiskies when they were at 3/5 years old.
In terms of value for money... well that is debatable. Again from a personal perspective (like all whisky is), if you can afford and get hold of the standard bottles at around £100 they are nice add to your lowland shelf. While the cask strength and sherry ones are nice too, personally the RRP is a bit too pricey for me.
Congrats to the folk who managed to get a bottle, well those who bought it for drinking.  |
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lowlander
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| deadz101 wrote: | | I tried a couple of the summer and winter releases, really liked the last one I had at one of the local pubs. The single cask releases sound a bit crazy, didn’t someone getting punched at one of the queues last year? |
What?!  That is crazy. What has the world come to when folk are getting violent with each other to buy a bottle of whisky. 
I've been seeing quite a few bars with Daftmill behind the bar, although while it is a pricey dram, I suppose it at least gives folk an opportunity to try it. |
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Southcoast Boy
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Thing is. You manage to get hold of for example the sherry cask #29 for £150, is that really the value?
To me, if I was to crack that open, it would feel like opening a £400 bottle of whisky because that's what they sell for at auction. Crazy. I'm sorry, and I am sure this isn't a popular thing to say. But I would have to flip it. It feels like a no brainer. I do flip bottles, but generally only to make space as I have too many bottles and can be a bit obsessive when collecting things. It's my wife insists on selling on to make space. If I had my way, I would just buy another shelf. Lol
If people are silly enough to pay £400 for a bottle you bought for £150 which in terms of contents should really be priced at £80 and you decide to flip it; does that make me a bad person? Am I fuelling the fire of ever increasing over inflated current pricing? |
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TheWM
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If someone offered you twice what your house is worth - would you be ‘ooooh - no, I’m contributing to the artificial housing price bubble, I’ll pass, thank you very much’. Of course not - you’d snap their hand off. Same applies to those who argue footballers get paid too much. I’d take £500k a week if it was on offer.
For these things to happen there needs to be a demand and a buyer who needs to meet that demand. I’ve actually sold around 500 bottles this year. Mainly as I was helping a friend out dealing with a death in the family. All I’ll say is that people who think that flipping is easy - try sorting, boxing, posting, listing etc this amount of bottles should try it to see if it really is that easy. Take away fees and then what you ‘expect’ from auction compared to what was returned can often vary quite a lot. |
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Coco33
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| I buy whisky to drink or to keep certain bottles in the cabinet as a hobby then to leave to the nephew and kid one day......and if they can make some money to put towards a house or wedding I’d be delighted so personally I have no problem with flippers good luck to anybody that can make a few quid especially in the current economic climate!!Plus makes the whisky taste all the better knowing you kept the bottle away from auction haha |
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lincoln imp
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| Southcoast Boy wrote: | Thing is. You manage to get hold of for example the sherry cask #29 for £150, is that really the value?
To me, if I was to crack that open, it would feel like opening a £400 bottle of whisky because that's what they sell for at auction. Crazy. I'm sorry, and I am sure this isn't a popular thing to say. But I would have to flip it. It feels like a no brainer. I do flip bottles, but generally only to make space as I have too many bottles and can be a bit obsessive when collecting things. It's my wife insists on selling on to make space. If I had my way, I would just buy another shelf. Lol
If people are silly enough to pay £400 for a bottle you bought for £150 which in terms of contents should really be priced at £80 and you decide to flip it; does that make me a bad person? Am I fuelling the fire of ever increasing over inflated current pricing? |
In answer to your question some will say yes, some woll say no it is all about perspective.
Your right about the if people are daft enough part but there are also drinkers on limited budgets who would love to get a bottle of this for the release price but can`t because flippers have hoovered them up.
I will not on principle buy a bottle that has been flipped,, I used to say possibly, if it was only a 10 or 15% gain but now not a chance, I cannot be arsed to line the pockets off someone whose only interest is in making money rather than enjoying the whisky.
I have noticed in this forum that there appears to be quite a lot of flippers or members who are ambivalent as to what the practice of flipping os doing to the whisky scene, Bottlers and retailers are now relying on these bottlings that are actually aimed at flippers and cited as investment bottles, that is how far the whisky world has sunk.
Yes we all entitled to do what we want with our money, but in my opinion flipping is like a disease, it needs a cure fast, or drinkers, remember them???? will be priced out the market all together.
I know my comments will be argued against but if people on here are ok to trumpet the fact they are flippers, I am entitled to say, the practice of flipping sucks.in my view.
The phrase "I cannot open this bottle it is worth too much at auction" always makes me smile, if you cannot afford to open it why buy it?
The Daftmill bottles I have purchased have been drunk & enjoyed and I also agree that they deserve praise for waiting 12 years to bottle the whisky.
I really like it and a few bottles reminded me of some Rosebanks I have tried.
There is absolutley nothing wrong with selling bottles that you purchased years before or you need the money for something else like a wedding, flipping is a different concept alltogether when you buy a limited bottle and sell immediatley for a quick gain,
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